Fitting ease
Nov. 9th, 2010 10:52 amI posted about this conundrum on the Advanced Sewing community yesterday, but it's still bugging me.
At school we're learning to draft patterns from measurements. We draw to the exact measurements we've been given (and later on: will take from our models). For a simple pencil skirt, it goes like so:
As you see, we draw the width of the pattern as exactly half hip width. If you use this pattern, your pencil skirt will be exactly the same size as the measurement you took on your customer/model.
Last night we learned how to take sizes for a skirt and which sizes to take. We learn to measure our model over their clothes, but the clothes shouldn't be bulky. We don't insert fingers under our tape measure, and we don't add ease for wearing when we draft a pattern. The pattern is exactly the right size.
I asked my teacher and she said we're using an adapted version of the Rundschau method and that no ease should be added. We don't add centimeters for ease when drafting. We don't insert fingers under tape measure. We measure the sleeve length from the back neck point. I guess it's just one way of a myriad of ways to learn things, but still.
I'm thinking that any clothes made like this are so tight around the body they can't be comfortable. They fit exactly, like a second skin. Now, this can be a good thing (because it's very obvious they fit well), or a very bad thing (you can't move about in them). Of course, we're learning to be custom dressmakers (coupeuse maatwerk), not seamstresses for a factory. There should be a difference between what we do and a Simple Simplicity pattern!
Maybe I need to test my theory and make myself a pencil skirt in the least stretchy cotton I've got in my stash. Over-knee, with a slight walking split (not quite a hobble skirt, but close).
Love to hear your thoughts!
At school we're learning to draft patterns from measurements. We draw to the exact measurements we've been given (and later on: will take from our models). For a simple pencil skirt, it goes like so:
- Draw a vertical line (A-C) which is the length of the center front seam.
- From the top (A) measure hip height and mark as point B
- At a 90° angle from the center front, draw the half hip width (B-B2).
- ...etc...
As you see, we draw the width of the pattern as exactly half hip width. If you use this pattern, your pencil skirt will be exactly the same size as the measurement you took on your customer/model.
Last night we learned how to take sizes for a skirt and which sizes to take. We learn to measure our model over their clothes, but the clothes shouldn't be bulky. We don't insert fingers under our tape measure, and we don't add ease for wearing when we draft a pattern. The pattern is exactly the right size.
I asked my teacher and she said we're using an adapted version of the Rundschau method and that no ease should be added. We don't add centimeters for ease when drafting. We don't insert fingers under tape measure. We measure the sleeve length from the back neck point. I guess it's just one way of a myriad of ways to learn things, but still.
I'm thinking that any clothes made like this are so tight around the body they can't be comfortable. They fit exactly, like a second skin. Now, this can be a good thing (because it's very obvious they fit well), or a very bad thing (you can't move about in them). Of course, we're learning to be custom dressmakers (coupeuse maatwerk), not seamstresses for a factory. There should be a difference between what we do and a Simple Simplicity pattern!
Maybe I need to test my theory and make myself a pencil skirt in the least stretchy cotton I've got in my stash. Over-knee, with a slight walking split (not quite a hobble skirt, but close).
Love to hear your thoughts!
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Date: 2010-11-09 10:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-09 10:08 am (UTC)Waar heb je dat geleerd? Welke methode gebruik je?
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Date: 2010-11-09 10:15 am (UTC)Bij het naaien van één van mijn Aimée-jurken leerde ik dat ik het lijfje een paar centimeter ruimer moest knippen dan mijn eigen omtrek. Daarvoor had ik wel al een basispatroon, maar dat moest ik aanpassen voor mezelf.
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Date: 2010-11-09 10:23 am (UTC)I think this was bound to happen. You have been sewing based on practicality for years, and now you're learning The Official Theory. Some of that is going to sound silly and unpractical to you. Take the new knowledge that you like, and leave out the parts you don't like. You make incredible clothes regardlessly.
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Date: 2010-11-09 10:36 am (UTC)It's functionality and practicality vs couture and made-to-measure. Maybe it is as simple as that.
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Date: 2010-11-09 11:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-09 10:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-09 10:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-09 08:01 pm (UTC)Als je echter de maat neemt over kledingstukken heen, dan meet je automatisch meer en heb je meteen draagcomfort. Linksom of rechtsom, het komt op hetzelfde neer.
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Date: 2010-11-10 08:21 am (UTC)