W3C validating the website....

[janestarz]

W3C validating the website seems harder than it should be. The W3C validator doesn't recognize my ", so it nags about my frame columns not being defined. I can - sort of - cope with that.
Now I open H:\websites\janestarz\htdocs\index.html in both Dreamweaver MX and Notepad. See the subtle but perfect difference.


I've changed some characters so Livejournal can display them. The html tags are correct in < and > ofcourse.

Dreamweaver MX

[!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"]
[html]
[head]
[title]Jane Starz; the Website[/title]
[meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"]
[link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.janestarz.com/global.css"]
[/head]

[frameset cols="20%,60%,20%" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"]
[frame name="left" scrolling="AUTO" noresize src="left.htm"]
[frame name="main" scrolling="AUTO" noresize src="main.htm"]
[frame name="right" scrolling="NO" noresize src="right.htm"]
[/frameset][noframes][/noframes]
[body]
[/body]
[/html]

Notepad

[!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"]
[html]
[head]
[title]Jane Starz; the Website[/title]
[meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"]
[link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.janestarz.com/global.css"]
[/head]

[frameset cols="*,800,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"]
[frame name="black" scrolling="NO" noresize src="black.htm"]
[frame name="site" scrolling="NO" noresize src="frame.htm"]
[frame name="black2" scrolling="NO" noresize src="black.htm"]
[/frameset]

[body]Your browser does not support frames.[/body]
[/html]

This will require some digging around. I'll keep you posted. Updated the website yesterday this morning, to add the info on Sasara and the pic.

{{Edit}}
It seems Dreamweaver does not like to display the frames, so just opens Bottom.htm for some strange reason. That's not what I asked it to do, but ofcourse Macromedia is just as precise as Microsoft; i.e. nothing works the way it should. This still does not explain why the black frames suddenly appear to be white, no more skulls filling the space next to my nice 800x600 design like it should do. *pout*

{{Edit II}}
Memo to me: Adding a global.css to a page where no white background is needed will overwrite all other background unless another css script is added. Black.htm works now. Yay! Skulls!

Comments

[nosferius.livejournal.com]

first big mistake in trying to validate your site is the overall use of framesets... these are all in all simply not allowed. You have to use cascading style sheets instead.

the " sign should be recognized, if not probably when inserted through dreamweaver it gets another tag which is faulty... try notepad for tekst insertion.

All in all I advice you to never use dreamweaver again and refer to the use of http://www.w3schools.com where all the working stuff is displayed in a learnable fashion.

and if you wish to see what a css based page lookslike just check my page, it is totally made up through css.

As last "tip" I can say: only use html for text stuff (

for paragraph,
only if needed,

- for headers etc.) and always close your tags to become w3 compliant (so for every

there has to be a

etc.

and only use css for giving the layouts and colors etc. a place.

your friendly selftaught neighbourhood nerd,

Steef

[janestarz.livejournal.com]

Yesh, well, as for the Dreamweaver thingy, the only reason I use it is to get the DOCTYPE tag right. I'm a nerdy self-taught HTML'er myself.
Maybe writing it in Linux' KWrite and then modifying it in Windows Notepad/Wordpad has something to do with the " not being recognized. This was something I never get it to work.
I hate dreamweaver. It makes such a mess of my tags.

Besides, I'm used to designing webpages to work with other browsers, using Mozilla instead of IE (FUCK IE!), in a 800x600 resolution. It's just that this W3C page isn't cooperating.
In any case, the CSS I use is pure lay-out (I hate copying body tags) and I don't even use textarea's since most Mozilla-based browsers can't handle those, though for most of my larp character pages they would look better.

Anyways, the homepage works, as far as I know, and FUCK w3c compliancy for now.

[elektron.livejournal.com]

If it renders correctly in Mozilla and IE, it can't be that bad =P